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Post by macspak on Apr 29, 2023 11:56:22 GMT -5
so what non priority need position should we draft at 135?
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Post by macspak on Apr 29, 2023 12:33:52 GMT -5
Tyler Scott still out there
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Post by gln826 on Apr 29, 2023 12:37:11 GMT -5
that blows!
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Post by gln826 on Apr 29, 2023 12:40:21 GMT -5
Scott could have been the pick with the trade back.
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Post by macspak on Apr 29, 2023 12:59:40 GMT -5
5th rounder P at 144? Or wait until the 6th?
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Post by macspak on Apr 29, 2023 13:12:17 GMT -5
they must hate their interior line
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Post by gln826 on Apr 29, 2023 14:15:02 GMT -5
i feel that the RG will become the RT, only thing that makes sense. However, i do like the last OG. not saying that he will be a starter, but he has a fast learning curve in the last couple years.
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Post by gln826 on Apr 29, 2023 14:21:14 GMT -5
there are still a few slot WRs that I think can play. Palmer, Washington, Boutte (injury holding him back), Jarrett, and Douglas. Still a few TEs out there too. have to draft some of those, right? and yes, the Punter is needed, the FA we got that played for Devner sucks!
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Post by gln826 on Apr 29, 2023 14:41:17 GMT -5
at 192, take a flier on the Army kid.
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Post by gln826 on Apr 29, 2023 15:01:50 GMT -5
here we are
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Post by gln826 on Apr 29, 2023 15:15:52 GMT -5
lol, 2 of the guys i mentioned went for WR
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Post by gln826 on Apr 29, 2023 15:23:31 GMT -5
and the best punter taken, maybe out special teams wont suck this year now
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Post by macspak on Apr 29, 2023 16:23:36 GMT -5
and the best punter taken, maybe out special teams wont suck this year now ST were a disaster after injuries hit many key players including their punter who did a nice job of kick offs. Hopefully the K picked in the 4th round and kick FGs and kick off. I look for a return to upper echelon in ST this year.
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Post by macspak on Apr 29, 2023 17:35:27 GMT -5
Interesting draft. I cannot believe they made all these picks. Some very athletic later round picks with potential. I would have preferred a bit more certainty with earlier WR picks and early TE and OT pick.
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Post by gln826 on Apr 29, 2023 19:19:15 GMT -5
Interesting draft. I cannot believe they made all these picks. Some very athletic later round picks with potential. I would have preferred a bit more certainty with earlier WR picks and early TE and OT pick. Maybe the Pats are already talking extension with Henry
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Post by macspak on Apr 29, 2023 20:18:56 GMT -5
Interesting draft. I cannot believe they made all these picks. Some very athletic later round picks with potential. I would have preferred a bit more certainty with earlier WR picks and early TE and OT pick. Maybe the Pats are already talking extension with Henry I was thinking something similar. More about what their mindset might be. They could be committed to and negotiating with Hunter Henry and can be convinced to be committed to- Gesicki. Meaning they will make a strong effort to sign him at well above average money to retain if he produces. Conversely without top production they could retain him for more average money. Bottom line is they may believe they already have the two veteran TEs under control and thus no need to draft one, high or not.
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Post by gln826 on Apr 30, 2023 12:12:28 GMT -5
Maybe the Pats are already talking extension with Henry I was thinking something similar. More about what their mindset might be. They could be committed to and negotiating with Hunter Henry and can be convinced to be committed to- Gesicki. Meaning they will make a strong effort to sign him at well above average money to retain if he produces. Conversely without top production they could retain him for more average money. Bottom line is they may believe they already have the two veteran TEs under control and thus no need to draft one, high or not. I did read that there were a few TEs they liked, but all went quick. I am thinking thee wernt any that they liked after the 4th round. I think Mallory was worth a shot at in the 5th round
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Post by gln826 on May 6, 2023 11:24:19 GMT -5
well, the Sow pick now looks to make more sense. Ive been reading that the Pats see him as a possible OT. At minimum he can be a long term OG, but has the size and athletic ability (played 11 games as a freshman) to play LOT.
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Post by macspak on Jan 11, 2024 19:58:48 GMT -5
January 11, 2024 at 8 PM. No more BB. Sad. The end of an amazing era. I cannot believe 24 years have slipped on by. Thank BB, Kraft and Brady for sustained excellence and joy.
What happens next?
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Post by macspak on Jan 11, 2024 20:24:06 GMT -5
I presume the Krafts' already had a succession process and people plan in place. Both will be interesting. What process and people have the Krafts" been contemplating? How do you change a culture within an organization? BB's hands and authority are over so many aspects of the organization. I expect a more collaborative process going forth but somebody has to have the final say. Who will that be? It cannot be a Kraft. Not on the football side.
Is McDaniel coming back in some capacity? Unlikely with BB gone. Are both BB sons gone? How can they not be?
Seems to be many high level openings administratively and on the game of football side. Was Mayo offered a path to HC a year ago? Is that time here to honor any commitment? How much higher level people will be brought in from outside the organization?
GM This will be multiple people (2 to 3) with multiple responsibilities. No clue as to who this should or could be.
HC Mayo
OC O'Brien???
DC
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Post by macspak on Feb 21, 2024 9:24:18 GMT -5
Well. Talk about wholesale changes! With more to come. Do you trade for Fields and pick Harrison at #3? Stay and take remaining top three QB? Trade down but not too far and get one of the top WRs not named Harrison or an OT? I really do not know. So many holes to fill. Probably it depends upon how you feel about the QBs. I see nothing in free agency at any position that I would clamor for. Tells you lot when the unmotivated and unreliable Trent Brown is one of the top free agent OTs available. Glad to see a youth movement underway. Have to be realistic about how difficult and long a rebuild may be. Judon being traded? I would do so. Why pay him even more money, which he will want, for a team going nowhere for at least the next couple years.
Pat's own free agents? No to Uche. Yes to Onwenu and Duggar at the right cost. Neither warrant top money at their positions. While I like RB Elliot same thing. Give way to younger RB's with potential. Badly need a 3rd down back and eventual replacement for top RB position.
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Post by gln826 on Mar 10, 2024 15:57:28 GMT -5
Well. Talk about wholesale changes! With more to come. Do you trade for Fields and pick Harrison at #3? Stay and take remaining top three QB? Trade down but not too far and get one of the top WRs not named Harrison or an OT? I really do not know. So many holes to fill. Probably it depends upon how you feel about the QBs. I see nothing in free agency at any position that I would clamor for. Tells you lot when the unmotivated and unreliable Trent Brown is one of the top free agent OTs available. Glad to see a youth movement underway. Have to be realistic about how difficult and long a rebuild may be. Judon being traded? I would do so. Why pay him even more money, which he will want, for a team going nowhere for at least the next couple years. Pat's own free agents? No to Uche. Yes to Onwenu and Duggar at the right cost. Neither warrant top money at their positions. While I like RB Elliot same thing. Give way to younger RB's with potential. Badly need a 3rd down back and eventual replacement for top RB position. Fields is what, 10-28? unless a 4th round pick, i would stay away especially with a big payday coming. I like MHJ, but i dont see much difference between him, Mitchell, or Thomas. Although, MHJ is better overall, Thomas is more consistent, Mitchell has crazy body control, and both have better hands and look more explosive. MHJ has too many drops for the 1st WR drafted, i think it is funny everyone says he is a "generational" talent, if it wasnt for his name, there would be a coin flip between him and Nabers for the 1st WR drafted. I would like a trade back, maybe a few times. IMO, this draft is stacked for what the Pats need: OL, WR, and TE. I like Maye better than Daniels and Williams, but not #3 overall better. all the mock drafts ive been seeing lately are crazy! JJ at 6, Nix at 9 or 12. I heard the Giants could move up to 3, which would cost 3 2nd round picks (1 next year). I would love that then move down to 9-13 and get a 2nd this year and a 1st next year. this would give ammo to move late into the 1st for Pennix, an OT, or WR, whichever you dont get in the 1st.
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Post by gln826 on Apr 4, 2024 12:03:39 GMT -5
Almost Christmas time (hahaha, get it, it is snowing). well, i will do a mock, probably best case (IMO). cant believe it is only 3 weeks away.
#3 traded with 103 to Minn (too much smoke for no fire) for #11, #23, #129, 1st (2025), and 4th (2025) #11 traded to Indy for #15, #83, and 3rd (2025) #15 Brian Thomas Jr WR #23 Tyler Guyton OT #34 Adisa Isaac OLB #68 Ricky Pearsall WR #82 Jaylen Wright RB #94 Michael Pratt QB Pats trade #137, 3rd (2025 indy), Pats receive #94 and #211 (i think he is only a little better than Zappe, but they would get so much crap if not getting a QB) #129 Jared Wiley TE #180 Garrett Greenfield OT #193 Logan Lee DT #211 DeCamerion Richardson CB #231 Nelson Ceasar OLB
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Post by gln826 on Apr 10, 2024 16:49:24 GMT -5
which QB do you like best? I like Maye a little better than Daniels, due to not having nearly as good of a team around him. he lost his best WR last year (Downs). I see him closer to Herbert if his mechanics can be tweaked. Daniels' arm worries me for the NE weather. I also wouldnt mind the Pats taking a flier on Milton either.
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Post by gln826 on Apr 24, 2024 16:36:46 GMT -5
Cant believe it is already tomorrow. My wish list for each position (within reason to be drafted) QB for upside Maye RB Wright WR Mitchell (really want Thomas Jr) TE Theo Johnson OT Kingsley Suamatala OG got plenty OC drafted Andrews last year Edge Jalyx Hunt LB Curtis Jacobs DT Maason Smith CB DeCamerion Richardson (been climing up boards last month) S Jaden Hicks
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Post by macspak on Apr 25, 2024 18:45:06 GMT -5
I would like to see them trade #3 to the Giants for a hefty return. At #6 take Bowers. Trade back into the first round about mid and take Penix. Get your OT with your first 2nd round pick. Then it is a crapshoot. Look to get your #1 WR next year. Draft a 2nd QB this year in the mid rounds. Maybe Rattler or the guy with the big arm. Milton? Too many of the top QB's fail. I'm not sold on any and what they did in college is irrelevant. What is their mental make up an d character? Give whoever it is proper support after they sit in year one.
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Post by gln826 on Apr 25, 2024 19:08:14 GMT -5
I would like to see them trade #3 to the Giants for a hefty return. At #6 take Bowers. Trade back into the first round about mid and take Penix. Get your OT with your first 2nd round pick. Then it is a crapshoot. Look to get your #1 WR next year. Draft a 2nd QB this year in the mid rounds. Maybe Rattler or the guy with the big arm. Milton? Too many of the top QB's fail. I'm not sold on any and what they did in college is irrelevant. What is their mental make up an d character? Give whoever it is proper support after they sit in year one. Penix scares me. that one game against T A&M was incredible, but T A&M didnt have a 2ndary to compete with those WRs. when he faced a good defense, he was shut down. that game reminded me of Vince Young against USC with Bush. that was the best college QB performance i have ever seen, but he didnt work out great in the pros.
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Post by macspak on Apr 25, 2024 19:27:56 GMT -5
I'm thinking of the old Oakland Raiders with Lamonica an d Biletnikoff etc. I loved that style of play. Penix is not Stabler but I loved Stabler.
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Post by macspak on Apr 25, 2024 19:39:21 GMT -5
Well, maybe Maye can be Lamonica??
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Post by macspak on Apr 25, 2024 19:40:46 GMT -5
And, I think Bowers is a top unique TE and I think Gronk and Kelse and their success and their team's success.
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